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12th February 2013. See article from bbfc.co.uk

A Good Day Die Hard DVD A Good Day To Die Hard is a 2013 USA action thriller by John Moore.
With Bruce Willis, Jai Courtney, Sebastian Koch. YouTube icon IMDb

UK: Passed 12A for strong language and violence after advised category cuts were implemented for:

  • UK 2013 cinema release

The film will be shown uncut in the US with an R rating (would be called 17A in Britain).  No doubt most of the western world will see this uncut version too.

The BBFC commented:

During post-production, the distributor sought and was given advice on how to secure the desired classification. Following this advice, certain changes were made prior to submission

This work was originally seen for advice in an unfinished form. The company was advised that the film was likely to receive a 15 certificate but that their preferred 12A classification could be achieved by making a number of cuts to both language and visuals. When the finished version of the film was submitted for formal classification, edits had been made:

  • to reduce the number of uses of strong language (both fuck and motherfucker) and
  • to reduce sequences of bloody violence, including blood sprays when characters are shot in the head, and punches to restrained individuals.

The formal submission was consequently rated ’12A’.

Comment: So 20th Century

14th February 2013. See article from bleedingcool.com

Bleeding Cooll website asked 20th Century Fox why they censored the upcoming cinema release of A Good Day to Die Hard . This was studio’s response:

Everyone at Fox is excited that John McClane is back on the big screen in the latest installment of the Die Hard franchise, this time with his son and on foreign soil in Russia.

We can confirm that working with the BBFC some minor cuts were made in order to achieve a 12A certificate.

We believe the movie will delight the Die Hard fans and the 12A certificate, similar to Dark Knight Rises and Skyfall , will allow both adults and teenagers to enjoy the latest movie in the franchise.

Comment: Proper Censorship

14th February 2013. From David

Ah, fuck. The director’s so proud of making sure it’s a proper R-rated movie this time, so naturally in the UK it gets cut down to be a 12A instead of a 15. I guess I’ll be waiting for the inevitable harder cut DVD to see A Good Day To Die Hard.

And they better fucking not pull that 12 DVD, uncut 15 Blu-Ray shit.

Comment: Proper Censorship

14th February 2013. From Andrew

There’s a lot of heat over this disgraceful decision to give us a butchered Die Hard 5 , and a lot of talk as to why the UK seems to get lumped with snipped versions STILL.

It seems to me that the BBFC’s choice to offer a cuts advice service is to blame (as well as, of course, the studio for being happy to give UK audiences a neutered product). Do other censorship bodies from other countries offer to coordinate with the studio during the editing phase over exactly what cuts are needed to achieve a desired rating?

Do other countries not end up with so many butchered films because they don’t offer this service, or to the same degree?

Well Germany, which tends to be the other European country most likely to cut films has decided that the will screen the uncut R Rated version. So maybe this Doe Hard fiasco will be just us.

Comment: A Good Day to Die Soft

15th February 2013. From MichaelG

This current trend for cutting films for the cinema (to make them available to a wider audience, naturally) is something of a paradox when you look at the situation once the film hits DVD and the film companies can’t wait to get Extended Harder Cut or Uncut Version screaming at you from the cover of the box (‘Taken 2′ and Savages are the two latest examples I can recall). Anyone else think this is odd? They seem to be alienating the audience the film was intended for at its cinema release, but then clamouring to get them back for the DVD release, probably knowing full well (even though the BBFC don’t seem to) that a younger audience are still going to watch an uncut version on DVD. Times have certainly changed since a cut cinema release would be further cut again for home viewing…

Comment: A Good Day to Blame Fox

15th February 2013. From Andrew N

Ok, first up, let me stress that i am in no way condoning any previous (Ferman era especially) BBFC decisions. HOWEVER, the current net trend of slating them, everytime something gets watered down, is pretty dumb. Seeing as the they are simply ADVISING distributors of what would need TO BE done, to get an inappropriate film, into an appropriate rating. I (like you) don’t rate censorship in any way, shape, or form. HOWEVER, this is not about censorship. It’s about the almighty Dollar.

Read the answer Fox gave to Bleedingcool.com, they completely dodged the question, and went straight for the sale. Familiar character, you all watched the last one yadda yadda yadda.

The thing is, John McClane has now become a caricature of the original character. He’s not the dude from Die hard, he’s an all American hero who can’t be killed. And just to prove that, they put him in more and more ludicrous situations. Sadly, these situations are very appealing to young boys. Ticket buying, money spending young boys. And Fox knows this. Because despite the flood of net nerds digitally bashing the 4th movie, it did amazing business. Which means somewhere in the U.S. (the UK played at 15, regardless of the cut ) 10′s of millions of people flocked to the local multiplex to see it.

And Fox knows this. Why wouldn’t they?

So why the 12? Or to be more exact the 12A . Well it’s the A that’s Fox’s ace in the hole. You see in the UK, ANYONE can see any film 12A or below. Providing they’re with an adequate guardian. However, in the U.S. ANYONE can see an R rated film (again, providing they’re with an adequate guardian). The only difference being that the R rating carries an age restriction of 17, not 12. So anyone under 17 can go and see McClane jumping out of windows into a questionable CGI drop. And here’s where the line blurs, and the bean counters take notice.

Because that 5 year gap (12 – 17) is the EXACT demographic of today’s Die hard fan. And while a BBFC 15 falls right in the middle, no parent in the UK can legally take a nagging 11 year old to see it. And those nagging 11 year olds spend a shit load of money, on tickets, concessions, and more to point, they always travel in groups.

Die hard is an adult film, would anyone really have objected to ANOTHER 15 rated Die hard movie in the UK (baring in mind, 3 out of the first 4 now carry this rating, and it’s only a case of time before Die hard 2 is dropped to it)?

Yes they would’ve. But all of those people work for Fox, and couldn’t give two shits about your viewing pleasure, as long as you (and more importantly your kids) keep paying.

Oh and as a final note, watch out for the (guaranteed) HARDER CUT on home video. As once again, Fox try to sell you something you should’ve already been privvy too.

Chances are, you’ll buy it too.

In these cases of cutting adult films for kids, lay of the BBFC, and go for the money hungry distributors. They’re the ones cutting your films. No one else.

Offsite: Do Newspaper film critics reckon Die Hard 5 is best left to the 12 year olds?

15th February 2013. See article from bbc.co.uk

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See article from bbfc.co.uk

A Good Day Die Hard DVD A Good Day To Die Hard is a 2013 USA action thriller by John Moore.
With Bruce Willis, Jai Courtney, Sebastian Koch. YouTube icon IMDb

UK: Passed 12A for strong language and violence after advised category cuts were implemented for:

  • UK 2013 cinema release

The film will be shown uncut in the US with an R rating (would be called 17A in Britain).  No doubt most of the western world will see this uncut version too.

The BBFC commented:

During post-production, the distributor sought and was given advice on how to secure the desired classification. Following this advice, certain changes were made prior to submission

This work was originally seen for advice in an unfinished form. The company was advised that the film was likely to receive a 15 certificate but that their preferred 12A classification could be achieved by making a number of cuts to both language and visuals. When the finished version of the film was submitted for formal classification, edits had been made:

  • to reduce the number of uses of strong language (both fuck and motherfucker) and
  • to reduce sequences of bloody violence, including blood sprays when characters are shot in the head, and punches to restrained individuals.

The formal submission was consequently rated ’12A’.

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See  article from  movie-censorship.com

The Raid Blu ray Iko Uwais The Raid is a 2011 Indonesia/US crime thriller by Gareth Evans.
With Iko Uwais, Ananda George and Ray Sahetapy. YouTube icon IMDb

The always excellent movie-censorship.com has revealed the Theatrical Version cuts to The Raid.

The US and UK Theatrical version was cut by 10s:

  • A close up of a gangster being shot in the head was deleted
  • A gangster being lingeringly stabbed in the neck has been deleted

The UK Blu-ray release includes the uncut Original Version, but the DVD buyers only get to see the cut version. In the US the uncut version is included on both DVD and Blu-ray.

…See  the pictorial cuts at  movie-censorship.com

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Thanks to irish bloke
See article from bbfc.co.uk

Savages Blake Lively Savages is a 2012 US crime thriller by Oliver Stone.
With Aaron Johnson, Taylor Kitsch and Blake Lively. See IMDb

UK: Passed 15 for strong language, violence, drug use and sex after BBFC advised category cuts were implemented for:

  • UK 2012 cinema release

The BBFC commented:

This work was originally seen for advice. The company was advised that the film was likely to receive an 18 rating but that their preferred 15 rating could be achieved by making changes to a number of scenes. These were to reduce:

  • various moments of strong bloody violence,
  • sadistic violence,
  • strong sex and
  • some focus on drug use.

When an edited version of the film was submitted for formal rating, changes had been made to satisfactorily address these issues and the film was consequently rated 15.

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Videodrome Blu ray Region FreeVideodrome is a 1982 Canada Sci-Fi by David Cronenberg.
With James Woods, Deborah Harry and Sonja Smits. See IMDb

The cut R Rated Version was passed 18 without BBFC cuts for:

  • UK 2011 Universal R0 Blu-ray for release on 26th December 2011.
  • UK 2002 Universal R2 DVD
  • UK 1990 CIC VHS
  • UK 1983 cinema release

The US cuts for an R Rating were:

  1. During the screening of Max’s (James Wood) Samurai Dreams video a shot of a dildo is very much shortened
  2. The first appearance of the Videodrome programme is slighter shorter as it loses a glimpse of pubic hair and a female victim being strangled
  3. The sequence in Harlan’s (Peter Dvorsky) lab after the Rea King Show uses a toned down take of a woman being whipped.
  4. Nickie’s (Debbie Harry) ear piercing loses several shots; Max moving the needle across Nicki’s body, Nicki’s cry of ‘God’, the needle being pulled out of the ear, a close up of the other ear being pierced and a pan to reveal Max & Nicki making love afterwards.
  5. The scene of Max shooting his second partner is slightly shortened.
  6. The death of Convex (Les Carlson) does not show his innards briefly erupting.

The US release is uncut and MPAA Unrated for:

Summary Review: Surreal

A sleazy cable-TV programmer begins to see his life and the future of media spin out of control in a very unusual fashion when he acquires a new kind of programming for his station.

In Videodrome, James Woods plays a Canadian television entrepreneur, a man who provides material – usually suspect, often porn – for cable TV. In the course of his seedy research he finds a pirate broadcast of a strange, compelling programme. The torture and masochism he glimpses as the programme hisses and breaks up is … well, it looks real. Or is it just incredibly well made, with the interference and fluctuating picture quality just an example of good engineering and clever directing, simulating clandestine status to give the show a bit of edge?

A disturbing, thought-provoking, hugely entertaining film. If you enjoy the unusual, if you appreciate the surreal, if you like to be challenged and explore irony, this may be a movie you’ll love.

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Death Wish 2Death Wish II is 1982 US vigilante film by Michael Winner. With Charles Bronson, Jill Ireland and Vincent Gardenia. See IMDb

Presumably the cut US R Rated Version has just been passed 18 for strong sexual violence without further BBFC cuts for:

  • UK 2012 Medis Sales/Final Cut R2 DVD

The BBFC commented:

  • This is a pre-cut US version of the film. Both rape scenes have been substantially reduced and re-edited prior to submission to the BBFC.

The R-rated US version has cut both the rape scenes:

  • While only the more violent aspects of the maid’s rape scene were cut,
  • the daughter’s rape scene (where she did not resist) was almost entirely cut except for the last few seconds.
  • Also the daughter afterwards is shown jumping out the window but the US version cuts out the part where she gets impaled on a fence.

2006 Release

This may be a 27s improvement on the previous UK releases.

The cut US R Rated Version was passed 18 after 27s of further BBFC cuts for:

  • UK 2006 MGM R2 DVD

The BBFC commented:

  • Cuts were required to remove scenes of sexual and sexualised violence.

The overall cut is still a heavily cut version similar to all UK releases to date where the BBFC cut 3:42s from the uncut version without the interim intervention of the MPAA.

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Thanks to Tim

Demolition Man Blu ray Region FreeDemolition Man is a 1993 US action film by Marco Brambilla. See IMDb

Thanks to Tim

The UK release is uncut for:

I can confirm that the recently released UK Blu-ray of Demolition Man is uncut (2 hits to the head and an instance of ear-clapping have been restored). It is also the original Taco Bell print (some European releases were dubbed over with Pizza Hut). However, this is not reflected on the BBFC’s site.

This is something I’ve noticed with several Warner Bros Blu-rays (Lethal Weapon 4‘s uncut status still hasn’t been updated). So I would imagine that Cobra (another recent Stallone Blu-ray from Warner Bros) is also uncut, but I can’t confirm this.

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South Park Complete Fourteenth SeasonSouth Park Season 14 is a US 2010 TV cartoon comedy. See IMDb

A version with just 12 out of the 14 episodes was passed 15 without BBFC cuts for:

  • UK 2011 Paramount R2 DVD for release on 19th September

The two controversial episodes titled 200 and 201 have been omitted entirely.

The US release is cut and MPAA Unrated for:

The controversial 2 part episode titled 200 and 201 have at least been included, but censored as per the latest TV version.

Originally the religious figure of Mohammed was depicted as a teddy bear when shown in episode 200. After kicking off a bit of a fuss, in the second part, 201, all shots of the character were obscured by a black silhouette marked CENSORED. Every mention of Mohammed was also bleeped out.

The two part episode in question features a typically convoluted plotline in which Tom Cruise (previously pilloried as gay and for being a scientologist) rounds up 200 other celebrities who have been targets of the show’s satire in order to launch a class-action defamation suit against the town of South Park. Cruise also wrangles Muhammad into his scheme, secretly motivated by a desire to harness the prophet’s goo, which grants immunity to ridicule. Throughout, Muhammad is dressed in a bear suit, an ironic nod to the prohibition on showing images of Islam’s founding father. and the blasphemy accusation against a British teacher in Sudan who let her class of kids name a teddy bear Mohammed.

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Inbetweeners Movie DVD Simon BirdThe Inbetweeners Movies  is a 2011 US comedy by Ben Palmer. See IMDb

Passed 15 after BBFC suggested cuts for category were implemented for:

  • UK 2011 cinema release

The BBFC commented:

The Inbetweeners Movie was originally seen by the BBFC in an unfinished version. The company was informed that the film was likely to receive an 18 classification but the preferred 15 classification could be achieved by making cuts in four scenes. These were:

  • to remove an aggressive use of very strong language,
  • to remove a particularly crude verbal sex reference (to urolagnia)
  • and to reduce the explicitness of two scenes of sexual activity (one of self-fellatio and one of masturbation).

When the completed version of the film was submitted, the aggressive use of very strong language had been redubbed, the crude verbal sex reference had been removed, and the strong scenes of sexual activity had been reduced, by a mixture of cutting and reframing. The film was therefore classified 15 without further cuts.

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Executice Decision DVD coverExecutive Decision is a 1996 US action film by Stuart Baird. See IMDb

Note that the 2011 US Blu-ray has been reported to be the cut European Version with removed references to islam.

The US Version is uncut and MPAA R Rated for:

The European Version was passed 18 after a further 8s of BBFC cuts for:

  • UK 1998 Warner R2 DVD
  • UK 1996 Warner VHS
  • UK 1996 cinema release

BBFC cuts from IMDb:

  • During the attack at the beginning of the film there are 3 cuts to the use of the knife by the Steven Seagal character. One bad guy suffers a sliced throat, a second gets stabbed in the throat and another gets stabbed trying to run away.

The European Version was pre-cut to remove references to islam

  • Al Tar, the David Suchet character, is seen rising from a praying position to answer a phone call from the cockpit. The UK version shows him answering the phone only, you do not know he has been praying.
  • In German language releases the dubbing of terrorists speaking in Arabic was mistranslated to tone down references to Allah and islam